Here
is a photo of a sheltie/cocker
cross
How
many breedings would
it take for this to look like todays Cocker?
NOT MANY..

Dear
Professor Strain,
I
have been reading
your letter concerning the merle gene in Chihuahuas.It was your opinion
that the merle gene was introduced by another breed. In my research, I
have read every available resource on color genetics in canines. I am a
professional breeder of American Cocker Spaniels and my breed
seems
to be undergoing the same situation- the appearance of a merle Cocker
in
1981. I have gone over many merle
Cocker
pedigrees and they
all go back to a dog named Rusty Butch, registered as a buff. Both sire
and dam are buffs, as are the 5 preceding generations (as far back as I
went but could go further). It is the opinion of the merle
breeders
that this is a gene mutation. I opine a dapple Dachshund in the
mix
a much more likely scenario than a gene mutation. After all,
there
is no record of any merle in AKC history since the first one
registered
in 1857. My concern has nothing to do with color because we
already
have a firestorm with the sables, but a health issue since AKC does not
have a pattern listing for merle, only roan.
I have
run across several
breeders that can't tell the difference between a merle and a roan and
do merle to merle breedings. There have been
instances
of sudden death
at 2 to 3 years of age in several merles. Perhaps related to the merle
gene but perhaps not, I'm not sure in addition to the usual double
merle
issues.
One
thing I AM sure
of, our breed is already is a serious health crisis without adding
merle
into the gene pool. No other Spaniel breed carries a merle gene. Could
there be any other explanation other than a cross with another breed
that
does carry merle? I would like to have all the facts
available
to make a proposal
to ASC, our National breed club, at least to have a "Z" list for the
merle
pattern for the future of our breed.
Any
insight you could give
me would be greatly appreciated by the entire Cocker fancy that is
dedicated
to the health and well-being of the
breed
we love dearly.
HIS
ANSWER:
I
don't know of any way for merle to show up except for breeding in from
some other breed that carries this gene.
We
don't yet know the location of the gene for merle in the canine
genome.
It
is very remotely possible that a gene mutation would produce the same
color
pattern gene responsible for merle in other dog breeds, but I would be
highly suspicious of this until proven otherwise.
George
M Strain
_________________________________
George
M. Strain
Professor
of Neuroscience
Comparative
Biomedical Sciences
Louisiana
State University School
of
Veterinary Medicine
Baton
Rouge, LA 70803
Voice
225-578-9758 Fax 225-578-9895
Research:
www.lsu.edu/deafness/deaf.htm

The
reason I got "involved"
was to find out the "background" on the merle cocker. Believe me I
think
the color is pretty (although the blue eyes are kind of spooky).
However,
I am one that believes
that for me to support the gene that it must be proven that it is a
valid
gene in spaniels.
That
is why I was asking
for all the pedigrees. To see if we could trace it back, knowing all
the
resources we had.
The
sable supporters went
back years and had a genetics guru on our side and ASC would still not
accept the sable. Right now we have no proof that the gene is any older
than the 1980's. And I still don't have a valid reason to breed a color
with a gene that has problems.
Yes,
YOU, might be a responsible
breeder. But honestly, tell me, how many people breeding merles out
there
are?
How
many of them test their
dogs.
How
many sell with limited
registration.
How
many of them care if
the puppy they sell is a double dilute? How many of them will
care
about anything except the extra money they are going to get for the
color.
And
believe me, you
cannot TEACH these people to be responsible breeders....it doesn't
happen.
Why
should they when
they can get $1000 for a merle puppy, and a black puppy will maybe
bring
them $250?
25%
problems plus
or minus is a high number of puppies when dealing with people who don't
care.
And
it's not like AKC is
accepting the merle color. They are accepting the fact that the dogs
are
being registered as roans.
I
don't think they know
or care about the difference.
Only
that they are
getting more money for more registrations.

I
just recently found out that a dog I sold to a good show/breeder person
was bred to a very nice bitch.
They
produced a very nice
litter. One of the pups of that litter was sold to a "supposedly" good
show/breeder couple.
That
male dog is now the
father of a "merle" litter.
So my
bloodline will now
be in Merle pedigrees.
This
is not something I,
nor the breeder I originally sold the dog to would ever want.
She
sold the pup in good
conscience to a show/breeder that was going to show him...then they got
"bit" by the "color" bug.
It
shows that you never
know
where you bloodlines can end up.

After
much research..every merle dog pedigree I have traced back to one dog.
Rusty Butch..a buff.
No
matter what bitch he
is bred to he produces a blue merle. Now in reading genetics..this is
what
I find..
In
order for an offspring
to be a merle, even if hidden, ONE OF ITS PARENTS MUST BE A MERLE.
The
merle gene cannot sit
dormant for multiple generations and then express itself. It is
dominant.
ONLY RECESSIVES can remain "unseen" for
multiple
generations and
then be expressed suddenly.
I've
also included the pedigrees
of dogs behind "Rusty Butch", they show a fairly dominant buff gene
pool,
no merles, or even parti's or roans.
Most
of the bitches that
were bred to Rusty Butch were also buffs.
So
I think someone might
need to talk to the breeder of Rusty Butch...I think an Australian
Shepard
might be in the works somewhere..it would only take two generations of
breeding to have a dog that looked like a cocker again.
Now
I agree that after 5
generations they are considered pure bred ...however...this to me is
proof
that merle is not a gene that has been with the
American
cocker spaniel
for a long time, unlike the sable gene which was present long before
the
split of the two breeds. This gene looks like it showed up in the
80's.

Another term I
have to say I dislike is rare color. This color in my opinion
is not rare. Does rare mean we don't see it often or does it mean we
chose
not to breed this color? It is definitely different in any way we look
at it but not rare. I have been to many kennels over many years from
the
state of the art facilities to serious puppy mill horrors. And my view
is that many people who chose to bred these colors due so financial
gain.
There are some that are curious about the color and want to do some of
what I call investigative breeding. But the majority want something
that
is not main stream to make a profit off the backs of the animals. If we
continue to call them rare they will continue to have a higher price
tag
for a less quality dog as I have seen many times. If they were any
other
commonly seen color such as buff or black with the same conformation
you
could not give them away!

I am a hobby
breeder of Parti and ASCOB cockers mostly show.. I dont just
breed for pets. I dont breed to simply have a pup for sale. I don't use
my boys at public stud and if I did let someone twist my
arm...the
bitch must be CERF'd OFA'd and I must see the pedigree and have
knowledge
of some of the dogs in the first few generations or FORGET IT. We are
responsible
for what WE do.....why breed your dog to another dog just to get
dogs..arent
there enough dogs out there?
I am
against the merle color
even being attempted to be bred in our breed. I am and will be very
opinionated
on this forever. As another person questioned why it is so bad if other
breeds have the color... it's because we never have and it CAN be the
downfall
of ANY breed if not registered correctly and then bred correctly.
What a
lot of people dont
seem to recognize is ... there is a standard to our breed and it was
set
by those who actually DID the Breedings that eventually became the type
and colors we see today.... I have respect for these breeders and their
breedings and for MY breed.
I know
a few geneticists
and I have worked for vets off and on for years, and currently do work
at a veterinarian hospital.
This
oh well they are here
attitude concerns me greatly... and those who have it... In reality I
wish
didnt own this breed!!!!!!!!!
The
American Cocker will
eventually will be affected by this there is not doubt about
it....
I'm
just one person trying
to do the part ...that a whole lot of others themselves should do.
..
Lets all just realize...
pedigrees are basically as good as the breeders integrity..... I think
that will explain why there is not much info on the internet
about
merles.... there was NO such thing.... it was created by (my opinion
and
many others)... a herding dog being in the HITCH....
My
Honest opinion

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